Curse

noir0 · Dec 02, 2006, 08:33 PM // 20:33

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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

Again, it isn't neccessary. It's not like a.net ate your first born child or something. Its a freaking game. Have a hyernia elsewhere and stop complaining. It isn't that big of a deal. If you can't be bothered to try to beat the domain of anguish, then why are you complaining on these boards? If you care so much about getting a Rt hero, go out there and start playing and try to beat it instead of wasting your time and energy here complaining and asking to make it easier.

The only person i see being hysterical over anything is you.

The op is requesting that it be made easier, not whining, (s)he is requesting. Not a very hard concept to grasp now then is it.

I don't really care about the whole rahza thing, but as the poster above me said. Why? It doesn't make any logical sense :S.

Mad King Corn · Dec 02, 2006, 08:45 PM // 20:45

I agree 100% with the topic title. It needs to be changed so that its easier to get the ritualist. It's way too unfair now, perhaps it can be fixed to allow a PVE character to get trading in Luxon or Kurzick faction points? This would allow at least most people in the game to get him.

This is one petition I will gladly sign!

/signed

nightwatchman · Dec 02, 2006, 08:46 PM // 20:46

The Razah thing really doesn't make any sense to me. Anet have always made GW so that everybody can get perfect items (greens and collectors brought perfect items to the masses, etc.)

The elite areas were all about players getting nice skins on their weapons, etc, but they've never been able to get items that are impossible for non-elite players.

I'm all for that, because the game mechanics put a cap on what you can equip so after a while looks is all that matters. (fissure armor ftw)

Razah on the other hand is a game mechanic. There is no choice for getting a ritualist hero except by completing these missions. You can't get a "common-skin" rit hero.

vergerefosh · Dec 02, 2006, 08:50 PM // 20:50

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Originally Posted by Randomway Ftw

/not signed

Don't suck and you'll get Razah eventually.

It's not got anything to do with sucking. Some people like want a ritualist hero, and they can't get him, as all the people in DoA want a small variety of builds to go in groups.

Got nothing to do with sucking, and a lot more to do with people being elitist and snobby

"I'm soo cool, i'm so leet, you can't come in my group as you can't fit my nice little build plan, and you're not a max LB"

/signed

viper008 · Dec 02, 2006, 08:55 PM // 20:55

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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

Again, it isn't neccessary. It's not like a.net ate your first born child or something. Its a freaking game. Have a hyernia elsewhere and stop complaining. It isn't that big of a deal. If you can't be bothered to try to beat the domain of anguish, then why are you complaining on these boards? If you care so much about getting a Rt hero, go out there and start playing and try to beat it instead of wasting your time and energy here complaining and asking to make it easier.

You don't get it do you? If Anet didn't make it so dam hard then eveyone wouldn't be here complaining and be playing in DOA + Elite mision duh...
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Have a hyernia elsewhere

Hmm yeah right Anet tell players to post one fan sites just like this one since they can't be botherd having their own forum for players to complain on.

So like it or not complainers are here to stay and you don't have to read and reply too their post.........................

Bel · Dec 02, 2006, 08:57 PM // 20:57

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Originally Posted by vergerefosh

Got nothing to do with sucking, and a lot more to do with people being elitist and snobby

"I'm soo cool, i'm so leet, you can't come in my group as you can't fit my nice little build plan, and you're not a max LB"

Wasn't accepted to a group because my rank was 6 and not 8. Of course it is only natural that they're better than us because 99.87% of them AFK-farmed those 50,000 points

Cherrie · Dec 02, 2006, 08:59 PM // 20:59

/signed

As someone already said, Elite Missions provide extras - more leet skins etc for some to show off, but not things that can not be counterparted. Sure, Rit hero isn't necesary, neither are ANY heroes (apart from the fact that they are needed for N missions) since we have hench. The way to obtain Razah should be changed in my oppinion so that every average player can obtain him - just because he can not be couterparted. Add 3rd leet monk with fancy looks and make him cost 50 gems, but not a hero who's proffesion is missing from the current set of heroes.

Hell Marauder · Dec 02, 2006, 09:14 PM // 21:14

/signed

Had Razah been a "switchable" hero, he would've earned the right to be in an elite area. But now he is just a rit, he should be in normal areas like all other heroes.

MithranArkanere · Dec 02, 2006, 09:33 PM // 21:33

We'll I actually made an suggestion about heroes, and stated my opinion about this somewhere else, but...

#1 If you don't own factions Razah is useless.
#2 Each campaing has two unique classes...
#3 To make ritualists and assasins and get the most of their skills you need factions.
#4 Factions gives the Assasin heroine. But not a Ritualist.
#5 There are two heroes of each core class, but member.
#6 There is one hero of each campaing-only class, but the ritualist is receiben after beating 4 madly hard lite missions.

What we get?
*Prophecies should give another mesmer.
*Factions should give the ritualist.
*Razah should be really variable

marshy man · Dec 02, 2006, 09:34 PM // 21:34

give it a week and the eliteness wontbe so elite anymore...

Curse You · Dec 02, 2006, 09:44 PM // 21:44

/signed

There is no other ritualist hero available, however there is a hero for every other profession. As it is right now, in order to get a simple Ritualist hero, you have to do the most difficult area in Nightfall.

The worst part is, PvP players can get the same hero for only 6,000 Balthazar Faction.

Try telling me that's good balance between PvE and PvP players.

Randomway Ftw · Dec 02, 2006, 10:00 PM // 22:00

Come on Anet make the game super easy, I'm too lazy to get off my ass and actualy learn to play a succesful build, give me Razah without any work111!!!1
!!!11
/End Sarcasm

Seriously, it was Anet's choice whether to include Razah at all, and now you bitch because the didn't give it to you on a silver platter and you actually have to, guess what? Play the game to get him.

Remember you are playing against static unchanging AI, you can change your skills to exactly counter their skills and they wont do anything.

Seriously just play the game and get Razah. Do you need Razah? No. Is Razah necessary? No.

Bel · Dec 02, 2006, 10:09 PM // 22:09

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Originally Posted by Randomway Ftw

Come on Anet make the game super easy, I'm too lazy to get off my ass and actualy learn to play a succesful build, give me Razah without any work111!!!1
!!!11
/End Sarcasm

Seriously, it was Anet's choice whether to include Razah at all, and now you bitch because the didn't give it to you on a silver platter and you actually have to, guess what? Play the game to get him.

Remember you are playing against static unchanging AI, you can change your skills to exactly counter their skills and they wont do anything.

Seriously just play the game and get Razah. Do you need Razah? No. Is Razah necessary? No.

Most likely everyone here has got to the part to receive the quest for him... And you're saying we haven't played the game? No one asked them to give him to us on a "silver platter" either.

Do we have the right for feedback? Yes.

Sarevok Thordin · Dec 02, 2006, 10:15 PM // 22:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randomway Ftw

Come on Anet make the game super easy, I'm too lazy to get off my ass and actualy learn to play a succesful build, give me Razah without any work111!!!1
!!!11
/End Sarcasm

Seriously, it was Anet's choice whether to include Razah at all, and now you bitch because the didn't give it to you on a silver platter and you actually have to, guess what? Play the game to get him.

Remember you are playing against static unchanging AI, you can change your skills to exactly counter their skills and they wont do anything.

Seriously just play the game and get Razah. Do you need Razah? No. Is Razah necessary? No.

I'd love to see your posting if it was a single monk hero in the game, and Dunk/Thal were something else.

Cherrie · Dec 02, 2006, 10:17 PM // 22:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randomway Ftw

Come on Anet make the game super easy, I'm too lazy to get off my ass and actualy learn to play a succesful build, give me Razah without any work111!!!1
!!!11
/End Sarcasm

Seriously, it was Anet's choice whether to include Razah at all, and now you bitch because the didn't give it to you on a silver platter and you actually have to, guess what? Play the game to get him.

Remember you are playing against static unchanging AI, you can change your skills to exactly counter their skills and they wont do anything.

Seriously just play the game and get Razah. Do you need Razah? No. Is Razah necessary? No.

Pity you haven't read anything aside from the post title. And actually youre the one bitching, btw.
I won't give you the anwser on the silver plate, since you wouldnt like that I suppose, so here you have a quest: read the post and find out why we actually want the way rit hero appears in pve changed. Quest difficulty : noob, if you have IQ at at least 1+ that is.

Kool Pajamas · Dec 02, 2006, 10:31 PM // 22:31

/signed

There is no reason why a simple rit hero should be in an elite area where its hard to even find a decent group. And you are required to party with at least 1 other person since there are no hench.

Curse You · Dec 02, 2006, 11:26 PM // 23:26

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Originally Posted by Curse You

The worst part is, PvP players can get the same hero for only 6,000 Balthazar Faction.

Try telling me that's good balance between PvE and PvP players.

Ok, quoting myself here.

I just tried getting Razah via PvP. It took me about 2 hours of playing RA.

Now, how long does it take to get all the gemstones you need to get Razah in PvE?

Traveller · Dec 02, 2006, 11:47 PM // 23:47

I would also say it's a bit imbalanced between PvE and PvP players, especially compared to how you can acquire the other heroes. So yes, I would /sign this.

Kai Nui · Dec 03, 2006, 12:03 AM // 00:03

When I heard of Razah, that was probably the only thing I was looking forward too when I played Nightfall. Now that we find he's a lousy ritualist, Guild Wars just feels like a huge shit hole. Thanks for this major let down.

The Ernada · Dec 03, 2006, 12:23 AM // 00:23

First, this isnt a petition to make DoA easier. People just want Razah to be separate from the Elite mission. It's okay to make DoA hard but making it mandatory to go into the mission to get Razah seems a bit too much.

The problem is that all the other heroes are easily obtained. Then suddenly there's one hero, not even a special one like a variable one, is tenfold as hard to obtain. He is definately not a "FoW" type hero because there are no other replacements for him, it's not like we can get a "cheaper" version of him somewhere else. There are no other ritualist heroes and that's a problem.

Especially since this is a Factions profession in a Nightfall elite mission. This whole thing doesnt make sense.